A few rule edits and clarifications

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Hello everyone! We have added some clarification to the "Private Room" rule in regards to minors being present in private rooms to keep our younger user base safer. While we already have a rule in place in regards to propositioning minors and/or subjecting them to adult material in our "Propositioning Minors" rule, we thought it would be good to include this in the private room rule as well.

The original rule read:
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Owners of a private room are responsible for what happens in said room. This means that when you enter another user’s room, you are subject to their rules. If you do not like the rules laid down by the room owner, we suggest going to another location. The only times that the Wolfhome Administration Team will intervene in private rooms are when safety threats (this includes death threats and self harm threats), hack threats, virus threats, suicide threats are made or the propositioning of a minor occurs.

Opening or entering another person's private room on Wolfhome, without their knowledge and without their consent, is not acceptable. Using another's personal room without permission will be considered a form of theft, and said user can be removed from the room and given an official warning. If this occurs, the room owner will need to report it to the Wolfhome Administration directly so it can be handled.
The new rule (additions in yellow):
Private Rooms
Owners of a private room are responsible for what happens in said room. This means that when you enter another user’s room, you are subject to their rules. If you do not like the rules laid down by the room owner, we suggest going to another location. The only times that the Wolfhome Administration Team will intervene in private rooms are when safety threats (this includes death threats and self harm threats), hack threats, virus threats, suicide threats are made or the propositioning of a minor occurs.

Wolfhome is extremely serious when it comes to protecting minors. We make every effort to keep this site safe and enjoyable for all users. Adult users (18+) are subject to additional expectations when interacting with underage users. It is unacceptable for any adult user to expose an underage user (minor) to explicit content of any kind. This rule also covers propositioning minors, exposing them to explicit content, any Not Safe For Work (NSFW) material, or any other potentially unsafe activities. Anyone caught doing so will be permanently banned from ALL Chatlands sites. Instances of propositioning minors will be reported to the appropriate Internet Service Provider (ISP) and/or local legal authorities.

**A permanent ban across ALL Chatlands sites will be placed for any cases of propositioning a minor/a minor propositioning an adult, or adult users exposing minors to explicit content of any kind.


Opening or entering another person's private room on Wolfhome, without their knowledge and without their consent, is not acceptable. Using another's personal room without permission will be considered a form of theft, and said user can be removed from the room and given an official warning. If this occurs, the room owner will need to report it to the Wolfhome Administration directly so it can be handled.
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I'm really confused and just want to clarify. The rewording is vague as it includes "nsfw" material. Does this mean, should someone who is under 18 be in a private room, and I link Limp Bizkit's Hot Dog, I'll be banned? It is inherently NSFW and NSFW content is explicitly named in the rule change.

I'm just trying to figure out what has materially changed about this rule. Is it rewording for clarity, or is it an actual change in rules that we need to censor ourselves around minors in private rooms?

Just asking for clarity, sorry to be a pain.

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I would also like to ask for clarification on falsifying administrative statements and misrepresenting administrative action. This wording is confusing to me and I would like examples of it
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Colo wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:44 am
I'm really confused and just want to clarify. The rewording is vague as it includes "nsfw" material. Does this mean, should someone who is under 18 be in a private room, and I link Limp Bizkit's Hot Dog, I'll be banned? It is inherently NSFW and NSFW content is explicitly named in the rule change.

I'm just trying to figure out what has materially changed about this rule. Is it rewording for clarity, or is it an actual change in rules that we need to censor ourselves around minors in private rooms?

Just asking for clarity, sorry to be a pain.
Not a pain at all!

The private room rules have not changed, these rules were always in place, we just wanted to add more clarification to this particular rule. These same rules were also already listed under the "propositioning minors" rule. We wanted to make sure that the user base understood that these same actions would be held accountable in private rooms as well, and not just the public rooms, since private rooms have their own set of rules with being more lenient.

When it comes to NSFW content in private rooms:
Songs that are labeled as NSFW are fine, as they always have been, in private rooms. We are referring to content such as pictures of naked humans, porn, sexual acts/talk, and other things along that level should not be posted in private rooms if a minor is present. If you want to share a naked picture of a lady in your private room, so long as no minors are present, then you can do just that. You just want to be sure that no minors are present prior to linking to such material.

I hope this makes sense and helps with clarifying this addition to the rule?

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Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:27 am
I would also like to ask for clarification on falsifying administrative statements and misrepresenting administrative action. This wording is confusing to me and I would like examples of it
We have had users in the past falsify why they were warned or banned to other users on chat which in turn puts us in a bad light to look as if we are 'abusing our powers', which has never been the case.

An example would be:
UserA is warned for using a derogatory word in a public room towards another user. UserA then turns around and tells other users on chat that they were warned because they said "hi" to an admin. (Which has actually happened in the past.)

Admin whisper to UserA: Hi UserA. It was reported that you were using derogatory words in the public rooms towards another user. Please refrain from using derogatory words in the future as we do not tolerate such language. This is an official warning and if you continue to break the rules you will progress up your ban ladder. You may want to refresh yourself with the rules at this time by following this link: LinkHere

UserA to the room after the admin leaves: Omg guys, I just got warned by that admin saying I shouldn't say hi to them. wtf?

This would be falsifying administrative statements and misrepresenting administrative actions.
Hope this helps!
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ok but my thing is people are lying about their age to get into private rooms or don't disclose.. i suppose its just a safer bet for nsfw material if i mark my room 18+ but if the minor marks their acc as over 18 and there is nsfw posted in the room will it fall back on us ? hope that makes sense

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thank you- that was my bigger worry as I do know it has happened where people lie about their age just to get into 18+ rooms. I meant it in a sense where we didn't know they were a minor. However I don't usually allow strangers in my room anyway more so just a in general question!!

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Totem wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:41 pm
thank you- that was my bigger worry as I do know it has happened where people lie about their age just to get into 18+ rooms. I meant it in a sense where we didn't know they were a minor. However I don't usually allow strangers in my room anyway more so just a in general question!!
As a chat owner, I would say that would fall on the responsibility of the user themselves. I believe there is a check to see if you know you're entering an 18+ room beforehand, not sure though. But if a minor does it on their own accord and you do not have any way of knowing, it isn't your responsibility in a legal sense, yknow? It's just like minors who access pornography by clicking "Yes, I am 18". It's their own and their parents/guardians' responsibility.
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Zuko wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:33 pm
Totem wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:41 pm
thank you- that was my bigger worry as I do know it has happened where people lie about their age just to get into 18+ rooms. I meant it in a sense where we didn't know they were a minor. However I don't usually allow strangers in my room anyway more so just a in general question!!
As a chat owner, I would say that would fall on the responsibility of the user themselves. I believe there is a check to see if you know you're entering an 18+ room beforehand, not sure though. But if a minor does it on their own accord and you do not have any way of knowing, it isn't your responsibility in a legal sense, yknow? It's just like minors who access pornography by clicking "Yes, I am 18". It's their own and their parents/guardians' responsibility.
Yeah that's about what I figured as well.

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