Nipple Rule Revision: Voting and Discussion

Old announcement of past promotion rounds and updates to Wolfhome.

Should the rule be revised and changed?

Keep the rule as is (no nipples allowed)
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26%
Change the rule (Male nipples, no female nipples)
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74%
 
Total votes: 99
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:52 pm

I want to give this at least a week since posted to make sure everybody who wanted to contribute and have their say has done so. I think that's a decent time.
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:22 pm

Yeah comparing anything trump does with something jesse does is a little uhhhhhhhhhhhhh especially since trump actively fucks up trans men and women's lives and doesnt want them to exist like, at all,

Anyway though I'm for masculine/flat/whatever we be calling it tiddy
no I don't think its transphobic to obscure a Nipple that's Absurd especially since it's already been clarified by ya boi Jesse
props to everyone who still wants all or none but isn't calling people out for being tired of not being able to post even Memes with nipples on it
I literally had to copy/paste little Shias onto the nipples in an image of that rob cantor Shia LaBeouf video because God forbid they got nipples and I'm so Tired the rule just doesnt mesh well to me for many reasons already brought up and I'm not doing any real change in the world by arguing about nipples on a furry site

If you wanna come out of the depths to call ALL OR NOTHING!!!! power to you that's your choice and you are entirely welcome to vote against this rule change but dont be rude dont be accusatory over Nipples and just be civil we're adults not children and this is coming from your local dumbass who cant behave, ever
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:23 pm

I would just like to say one thing, the no nipples rule includes videos, gifs, images, anything with visual nipples. If you link a trailer to a movie with an actor shirtless with their nipples uncensored, that breaks the rule, even if its just for a second in the video. If you post a gif of hulk... just doing hulk things with his nipples showing, oops we have to take action against you. If you post a link to some swim trunks that you would like to buy and the model is shirtless.. again, we have to take action. It is innocent things that we are having to take action against, and I personally became an admin to help our userbase and keep them safe. Now, I do not find any nipples threatening. there are just some things that as a PG-13 chat we cannot allow, unfortunately. But as it stands, I would rather not ban someone over hulk nipples.
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:26 pm

hulk titty!

also jus sayin i 100% wanna show top surgery photos down the line. lemme expose my 7k nips for informational purposes Please. to clarify no, i do not have top surgery. but one day.
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:45 pm

honestly, it shouldn't matter considering that the media has no control over it neither should you.
if it's literally the hulk smashing bs all day and there so happens to be a nipple, i really, really don't think anyone is going to see the low res nip flash by as he's throwing iron man into a skyscraper.
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hulk titty!

also jus sayin i 100% wanna show top surgery photos down the line. lemme expose my 7k nips for informational purposes Please. to clarify no, i do not have top surgery. but one day.
this is honestly one of the biggest proponents as to why i’m for having it back
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:06 pm

the problem with this is why is this so soon? i know you guys are citing 'well it's been a year' but the last post, in suggestions, was less than a year ago.

my question is - why is this up for discussion, but nothing has been mentioned about the nazi rule revision, or the racism rule revisions, etc.? why is this one so important when there's blatant racists on wh that keep skirting around being perm banned by playing the ban ladder, and there's nothing done about those rule changes we've asked for multiple times?

why aren't we being allowed to vote on those and have our say on those, but we haven't even been given any sort of update on where the discussions are on those topics - i.e. tightening the rules that those people that keep getting banned for racist comments stay banned and so forth?

like i get it people were unhappy with this, but it was settled. people are gonna be unhappy. this has caused so much anxiety on the chat and on the forums, as it has done every single time it is brought up. like ragana said, please, this time, pick and decision and leave it for a while.
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:12 pm

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the problem with this is why is this so soon? i know you guys are citing 'well it's been a year' but the last post, in suggestions, was less than a year ago.

my question is - why is this up for discussion, but nothing has been mentioned about the nazi rule revision, or the racism rule revisions, etc.? why is this one so important when there's blatant racists on wh that keep skirting around being perm banned by playing the ban ladder, and there's nothing done about those rule changes we've asked for multiple times?

why aren't we being allowed to vote on those and have our say on those, but we haven't even been given any sort of update on where the discussions are on those topics - i.e. tightening the rules that those people that keep getting banned for racist comments stay banned and so forth?

like i get it people were unhappy with this, but it was settled. people are gonna be unhappy. this has caused so much anxiety on the chat and on the forums, as it has done every single time it is brought up. like ragana said, please, this time, pick and decision and leave it for a while.
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:17 pm

Actually, it's been nearly two years. viewtopic.php?f=8&t=190576 As for the updates on the other topics, are we including one on one updates? I know that I have personally updated users on issues they have had for them to later claim that no updates were given and they never received information. If you are looking for a public announcement on those things, then it is important to make that expectation clear.
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Actually, it's been nearly two years. viewtopic.php?f=8&t=190576 As for the updates on the other topics, are we including one on one updates? I know that I have personally updated users on issues they have had for them to later claim that no updates were given and they never received information. If you are looking for a public announcement on those things, then it is important to make that expectation clear.
sorry, i meant the actual post in suggestions. viewtopic.php?f=12&t=200280

that was earlier this year.

i have no received ANY updates from WH staff about the rule changes i've tried to push. the only update i've received was from duke, which he told me, 'yeah, they're talking about it' back in june.

but on that last line - on the nazi topics it was the ADMINS that told US that they would give us announcements and updates and be more transparent with what was happening. i have not seen that, beyond this post.

edit: it may have been another post, but it was a post within the last year where the admins promised us we would get more updates on what they're discussing and what not. it may have been the other post (you know the one), actually. i don't remember that well, and do not seem to have access to either to cite them.
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Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:26 pm

To clarify the confusion for everyone, the hate group issue resulted in a rule change last year when it was first brought up: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=198557 The announcement went live Nov 29, 2017. There were a lot of promises made by the Overseers about creating a better announcement system for all sites, and I genuinely hope that is something that is implemented soon.

Let's keep this thread on topic.
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I would just like to say one thing, the no nipples rule includes videos, gifs, images, anything with visual nipples. If you link a trailer to a movie with an actor shirtless with their nipples uncensored, that breaks the rule, even if its just for a second in the video. If you post a gif of hulk... just doing hulk things with his nipples showing, oops we have to take action against you. If you post a link to some swim trunks that you would like to buy and the model is shirtless.. again, we have to take action. It is innocent things that we are having to take action against, and I personally became an admin to help our userbase and keep them safe. Now, I do not find any nipples threatening. there are just some things that as a PG-13 chat we cannot allow, unfortunately. But as it stands, I would rather not ban someone over hulk nipples.
This is exactly why we need this rule revoked and the old one implemented again..... i mean. its really silly.......... and the fact that this is a pg-13 chat?? at least allow male nipples. pg-13 movies and tv shows have male nipples. come on. lol.
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Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:19 pm

Just letting everyone know, you have until the 20th of November to get any final thoughts (and votes, if you haven't done that yet) in until we close off this discussion and take it from there.
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